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Mark The Pilgrim's avatar

Long time'ish fan of your work and I thought this was a very thought provoking newsletter. I don't know if you check your comments, but I had a few quick thoughts/questions that I'd like to share, if you do.

1) Considering you live in the UK, do you find Black British people to be less prescriptive/judgemental about what constitutes blackness and somewhat less performative about it? Have you had jarring experiences in Britain?

I'm Black British and I've had a few incidences of that sort, but I wouldn't say it's a constant feature of my life. Offline, I've never really experienced that "too black for the white kids, too white for the black kids" feeling outside of a few moments as a teen.

2) "You see, in my imagination and in isolation, I’m disinterested in my skin colour: I can’t change this fact about me and therefore accept it, but I also can’t comprehend attaching some kind of spiritual or deterministic significance to it. To be proud of my skin colour just doesn’t make sense to me."

I really empathise with this and I was brought up in a relatively pro-Black environment! I went to pro-Black Saturday schools in the UK; my mother read Essence/Ebony to me; and I spent a lot of my teen years in a predominantly black country (where race was hardly discussed, but regardless).

I don't regret any of the above and can even look back at some points of that element of my childhood with fondness, but ultimately, even with a lot of positive reinforcement about blackness, I've never really been interested in attaching some sort of pride or abstract spiritual value to it as some others do. My blackness has always just been a very neutral fact about myself. It really is just what I am deemed in society and can't really sum up the entirety of my personhood.

I have friends who wax poetic about the adjacent values of blackness and while I don't judge them exactly, I've always felt that it can be performative at best and cringe at worst.

And I'm certainly not ashamed of my blackness and I find black histories, cultures and even norms very fascinating. But a lot of the overt pride always felt like overcompensating.

FWIW, thank you for sharing your experiences.

Jay G's avatar

It's funny – and pretty ironic – how F.D Signifier's fanbase (and maybe even F.D himself) – who often claim to be anti-racist, woke, progressive, etc. – will openly diminish someone's blackness if they don't see the world or reach the same conclusions as they do. Be it through racial slurs, comparisons to animals, or simply calling them "not black enough" (whatever that means). It's silly. Thinking certain things and reaching certain conclusions doesn't make someone more or less black. I say this as someone who is black but was raised in suburbia by black immigrant parents.

There are far more differences within racial groups than there are between them; that is the common-sense sentiment, or at least it should be. Back in the day, we used to call people who believed the opposite of that – that there are more differences between racial groups than within – racists!

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